Re: Not "catching the wind " , or, what ARE we discussing?

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 57460
Date: 2008-04-16

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Not "catching the wind " , or, what ARE we
discussing?


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> From: "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@...>
>
> >
> > >Arnaud cited the Arabic word as <qaTu>, and derived it from PAA.
> I
> > >have only seen <qiTT->, indef. nom. <qiTTun>, def. nom. <al-qiTTu>
> > >quoted. I find no reason whatsoever to refer an Arabic word
> lacking
> > >demonstrable ancient cognates in other Semitic languages to PAA.
> > >DGK
> > ========
> >
> > Now you have PAA words like *giraw- "lion, wild cat"
> > well attested in southern PAA (omotic, chadic)
> > Cf. Starostin.
> > They are structurally the same as qit.tu
> > Velar + Dental with i as main vowel.
> > We may hypothesize that *k?itaw > *giraw
>
> > Hebrew also has a word with that structure : xa:tu:l
> > The long u: suggests that the w- might be part of the root.
>
> > The emphatic t.t. of Arabic could be from t+w.
> > All these data are fairly coherent.
> ============
> M. Douglas G. Kilday
>
> You wrote that looking for an African origin of the word cattu- is a
> dead-end.
>
> What I meant is that there is a significant number of PAA words :
> *giraw, qit.t.u, xa:tu:l,
> and these words have the same phonetic structure as cattu
> velar + dental + w.

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Patrick:

Even his severest critics would admit that Greenberg goes beyond
*****positional similarities***!

This is not linguistics! This is a parlor game!

Play with yourself, Arnaud.

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