Re: Not "catching the wind " , or, what ARE we discussing?

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 57457
Date: 2008-04-16

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From: "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@...>

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> >Arnaud cited the Arabic word as <qaTu>, and derived it from PAA.
I
> >have only seen <qiTT->, indef. nom. <qiTTun>, def. nom. <al-qiTTu>
> >quoted. I find no reason whatsoever to refer an Arabic word
lacking
> >demonstrable ancient cognates in other Semitic languages to PAA.
> >DGK
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> Now you have PAA words like *giraw- "lion, wild cat"
> well attested in southern PAA (omotic, chadic)
> Cf. Starostin.
> They are structurally the same as qit.tu
> Velar + Dental with i as main vowel.
> We may hypothesize that *k?itaw > *giraw

> Hebrew also has a word with that structure : xa:tu:l
> The long u: suggests that the w- might be part of the root.

> The emphatic t.t. of Arabic could be from t+w.
> All these data are fairly coherent.
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M. Douglas G. Kilday

You wrote that looking for an African origin of the word cattu- is a
dead-end.

What I meant is that there is a significant number of PAA words :
*giraw, qit.t.u, xa:tu:l,
and these words have the same phonetic structure as cattu
velar + dental + w.

Whatever this exact genetic relationship of these words in PAA,
I'm not trying to reconstruct any proto-form,
we are currently discussing loans.

your claim there is _no_possible_origin for cattu- in African languages is
_wrong_.

There are at least three potential candidates for a wander-wort.

I know what the methodology is,
keep this blablabla for yourself.

Arnaud
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