Re: Horse Sense (was: [tied] Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?)

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 57243
Date: 2008-04-13

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Subject: Re: Horse Sense (was: [tied] Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?)


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>; "jouppe" <jouppe@...>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Horse Sense (was: [tied] Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?)
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jouppe" <jouppe@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:39 PM
> > Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Horse Sense (was: [tied] Re: Hachmann
> > versus
> > Kossack?)
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> > In my opinion,
> > *k^ is regular
> > *k seems to be rare, or related to post-PIE creations or suffixations.
> > *kw should be the same as *k+*w
> >
> > *k^w is according to my proposal the phonotactic result of any velar (k,
> > g,
> > gh) followed by H1. This contacts created intensive phonemes in Eastern
> > and
> > Central PIE, which possibly were pronounced *[k:w] (long stop with
> > delayed
> > release) which is treated like k^+w.
> > I suppose people who disagree will offer examples for counter-analysis.
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> > Arnaud
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CORRECTION!
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> You have no basis for that opinion.
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> Although a few *k(^)W- seem to be derived from *k(^) + *w, the far greater
> number derive from a phoneme that was probably realized as [x]/[ç].
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> When any *H is added to this phoneme, the result is *k(^)Hw-, which was
> subsequently resolved to *k(^)W-.
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> As for examples, how can counterexamples be meaningfully offered when no
> examples have been provided?
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> Patrick
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