Re: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Volcae and Volsci

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 56963
Date: 2008-04-07

--- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

> At 5:21:12 PM on Sunday, April 6, 2008,
> fournet.arnaud
> wrote:
>
> > From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
>
> [...]
>
> >> Afrikaans is a creolized Dutch.
>
> > Afrikaans looks like a dialect of Dutch.
>
> That might be a little bit too strong, but it
> certainly is
> descended from 17th century Dutch.
>
> > It never stopped to be spoken by a majority of
> people
> > whose mother tongue was a set of dialectal
> varieties of
> > Dutch.
>
> Exactly. Since it was extraterritorial, it was
> subject to
> contact influences different from those of the
> (European)
> Dutch dialects, but 'creolized Dutch' is a gross
> exaggeration.
>
> Brian
>
I've seen descriptions of it as a creole language.
Dutch speakers tell me it's about a far from Dutch as
Jamaican patois is from English --more than the
difference between US and British English. It
supposedly has a simplified grammar and has influence
from german, French, English and various autochthonous
African languages.



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