Re: Hachmann versus Kossack?

From: george knysh
Message: 56957
Date: 2008-04-07

--- george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

>
> --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > > And by "Wenden" etc. do they mean Slavic or
> > something else?****
> >
> > Erh, they? As I understand it, most if not all
> (you
> > never know) of the
> > people who named those places are dead. Perhaps
> you
> > want to reconsider
> > your statement about an Atlantic - Baltic Veneti
> > connection?

****GK: My earlier statement doesn't deny this
(following Hubert and others). But I would prefer
reviewing more recent possibilities first.****
>
> GK: The big Slav push of the 6th century reached
> beyond the Elbe, and into Thuringia (outlier
> groups).
> So there would be nothing strange if some isolated
> elements got as far as Minden.

****GK: Another obvious possibility to consider is
whether these Western "Wends" represent a much later
colonization from the eastern marches, transplanted
there in the context of some military/administrative
activities of the 10th-13th centuries. Something
similar to the "Torki" of the Ros' river south of
Kyiv, or the "Pecheneg"(their name) villages in
Galicia. Local investigators in the Minden area might
have theories. Was there anything published in Germany
similar to Ukraine's "History of the towns and
villages of the Ukrainian S.S.R." (a massive 26-volume
undertaking of the late '60's and early '70's which
has extremely interesting details of local history and
prehistory?****



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