Re: Mitanni and Matsya

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 56646
Date: 2008-04-04

----- Original Message -----
From: "david_russell_watson" <liberty@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Mitanni and Matsya


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "David Russell Watson"
<liberty@...wrote:
>
> Please look again at the etymology which bases the name
> on the root vr- 'enclose, confine, restrict' and the
> suffix -una-, and then look at the role of Varuna in the
> Rig Veda itself, where we are even told explicitly at
> one point that Varuna 'pra vrnoti', and then tell us if
> you still can't see it as anything but a loanword.
>
> And just what PIE suffix does Sanskrit -*una reflect, David?

I have no idea, but couldn't care less, because it
has nothing at all to do with the argument at hand.

My argument is that 'Varuna-' has a sound and fairly
obvious _Indo-Aryan_ etymology, and that it's highly
unlikely that it's a loan from Hurrian.

David

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I have explained that my analysis of Varuna means 'wide' (*wer-u-) + 'one'
(-*n).

That is certainly appropriate for a god of the sea but rather strange for a
sun-god.

You have no idea what -una adds to a verbal root?

Or what PIE form it may derive from, like -*wen?

So, you are claiming that you do not know what Varuna means if based on your
proposed root.

Interesting.


Patrick

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