Re: Not "catching the wind " , or, what ARE we discussing?

From: george knysh
Message: 56585
Date: 2008-04-03

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> <gknysh@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> > > <gknysh@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The solution that satifies all these demands
> is that the
> > > > > Chatti were NWBlock-speaking NWBlock people
> driven out during
> > > > > Elbe Germanic expansion into their old
> areas.
> > > > >
> > > > > Torsten
> > > >
> > > > GK: That would be OK with me, except for one
> > > > additional point: that these displaced NWB-ers
> had
> > > > also adopted the "Elb-Germanic" archaeological
> > > > culture, as did whatever remnants of the old
> > > > populations they found in Hesse. Or did I
> > > > misunderstand Hachmann as to this?
> > > > >
> > >
> > > I'm not sure I understand you. The Chatti were
> archaeologically
> > > something separate, right? Where did they adopt
> the Elbe-Germanic
> > > traits, on the Rhine?
> > >
> > > Torsten
> >
> > GK: I thought that one of the citations you
> > translated from Hachmann made the point that as of
> 1
> > CE--> the Elbe-Germanic archaeological culture had
> > become completely dominant between Rhine and Elbe,
> > replacing whatever was there previously: late
> > LaTene,"north of the Lippe" cultures, and
> intrusive
> > Przeworsk.
>
> Wouldn't such an intrusion be a very good reason for
> the Chatti to
> leave for Kassel and environs?
>
>
> Torsten

****GK: They indubitably left. But the "they" would be
the Chatti-in-process-of
archaeological-transformation, since Kassel and
environs was as Elbe-Germanic in the first c.CE as
their old haunts. It appears that the Marcomanni also
adopted the new culture when they abandoned Thuringia
and (probably) Wetterau.****
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>
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