Re: Re[3]: [tied] Gemination in Celtic

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 56379
Date: 2008-04-01

I probably confused Tutbury, I did this from memory
My point is that if Norman French dropped s- before
consonants in Gmc topos, we should see something
similar in N. France

--- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

> At 2:50:25 AM on Tuesday, April 1, 2008, Rick
> McCallister
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Note that the Norman French changed the endearing
> name of
> > Snottingham into Nottingham --or so I've read,
>
> Actually <Snotingaha:m> 'the homestead of the
> Snotingas, the
> people called after Snot'; the loss of [s] in [sn]
> is
> attributed to Anglo-Norman influence.
>
> > and I think there was a Stuttingham > Tuttingham
> (vel
> > sim.)
>
> Don't know that one, but Tutbury is in record as:
>
> Toteberia 1086
> Totesbery 1140x50
> Totesberie 1141
> Tuttebury 1200
>
> Stuttesberia 1139x60
> Stuteberia 1176
>
> Either this was originally <(on) Stu:tesbyrig> '(at)
> Stu:t's
> fortified place or manor', with Anglo-Norman loss of
> initial
> [s] in [st], or there were two names for the place
> that were
> eventually conflated. (The other name would have
> been
> <(on) Tuttanbyrig> '(at) Tutta's ...'.
>
> Brian
>
>
>



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