Re: Volcae and Volsci

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
<miguelc@...> wrote:

>
> >>>Are you sure about *krokno-?
> >
> >> *krokno- is the pre-Kluge P.Celt. for Ir. <crocenn>.
> >
> >What's that supposed to be? It's not in the DIL, which does
> >however have <croiccenn> 'hide, skin'.
> >
> Lewis and Pedersen §53 give (as examples of -okn-) W. croen
> 'skin', pl. crwyn OCo. croin gl. pellis and with kn > kk,
> Ir. crocenn MnIr. croiceann Co. crohen Br. kroc'hen
> [presumably also 'skin'].
>

<croicenn> and <crocenn> both mean /krok'&nn/ (or the like), so it's
the same word. I don't understand the final -nn in Irish though.
Breton kroc'hen clearly shows a single -n.

BTW, the existence of a earlier Breton *kroen, pl. *krein
(corresponding to W croen, pl. crwyn) may be inferred by the peculiar
plural form krec'hin (from where it has spread to words of the
structure /k(r)o(R)en/ already in Middle Breton, namely croguen -->
pl. creguin, colen --> pl. quelin, corden --> pl. querdin)

Anders