Re: Volcae and Volsci

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 56156
Date: 2008-03-28

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:35:04 -0000, "Anders R. Joergensen"
<ollga_loudec@...> wrote:

>--- In, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
>> Because Celtic created geminates
>> out of the inherited sequence Glottal stop + Unvoiced
>> Arnaud
>> > Celtic and Osco-umbrian are full of geminates
>> > resulting from phonotactical -?-C > -CC-
>> > and most H2-C > CC as well.
>Would you care to provide some examples of this? Or have they already
>been posted and I missed it?

Henry Lewis and Holger Pedersen in "A Concise Comparative
Celtic Grammar" (1937, 3rd. ed. 1974) posit Kluge's law for

Since the book is not browsable in Google Books, I'll have
to type it in by hand, it's only a paragraph:

§73. (Gemination of an explosive due to assimilated <n>). An
explosive + <n> gave (presumably immediately before the
accent) Ir. <cc>, <tt>, <pp> (MnIr. <k> and <g>, <t> and
<d>, <b>), Brit. /x/, /þ/, /f/.
(1) Ir. <fracc> 'woman' Sc. <frag> 'a kind wife' W. <gwrach>
'hag' MlBr. <groach> MnBr. <grac'h> 'old woman' : Lat.
<uirgo:> 'maiden'.
(2) Ir. <brecc> 'speckled' MnIr. <breac> W. <brych> Br.
<breac'h> 'pock' : -no- participle beside the -to-
participle Ir. <mrecht-> §52; Ir. <crocenn> etc. §53
(primitive Celt. *krokno-); Ir. <cnocc> 'hill' MnIr. <cnoc>
OBr. <cnoch> MlBr. <knech> MnBr. <kreac'h> W. <cnwch>
'joint, knuckle' : ON. <hnakki> 'neck'.
(3) OIr. <gataim> 'I steal' MnIr. <goidim> : Lat.
<pre-hendo> 'I seize' Gk. <khandáno:> 'I hold' (W. <genni>
'to be contained').
(4) Ir. <brat> 'mantle' MnIr. <brat> W. <brethyn> 'woollen
cloth' OBr. <brothrac> gl. taxam MnBr. <broz>, <brouz>
'woman's clothes' V. <broh>; MlIr. <áitt>, <áit> 'place' :
*po:thni-, to Skr. <pa:thas> 'place', <pantha:-s> 'way'.
(5) Ir. <opunn>, <t-op> 'sudden' MnIr. <obann>, <tobann> :
Gk. <áphno:>.
/Note. The rule here given has been frequently contested,
e.g. by Thurneysen, IF. 44. 371; but it seems very difficult
to do without it./

This is *exactly* Kluge's law: any plosive + /n/ gives a
voiceless geminate (of course in Germanic there is the
slight matter of fitting things in with Grimm's law). Even
the general (and I believe, mistaken) neglection / rejection
of the law offers a striking parallel.

Miguel Carrasquer Vidal