Re: Volcae and Volsci

From: tgpedersen
Message: 56154
Date: 2008-03-28

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen
> >
> These complexes have more alternations than just
> geminate/non-geminate.
> Therefore we need another language.
> =============
> Then we will have to check that together
> one item after another
> until I think this is necessary.

No. That would be a waste of my time.


> I suppose you are always ready for that
> and have plenty of references
> Arnaud
> ============

> > And we

We?

> > don't need ?a bird language either
> > because this is a general PIE feature
> > that also exists in Greek.
>
> What is?
>
> ========
> Words starting with ?a- or ?-i mobile
> are PIE.
> a-lauda is singer : good old PIE.
> Cf. German Lied.
> Arnaud
> ===========

PIE ?a- and ?i-mobile? Why am I wasting my time on this?

> > > Your repeated statements that it's not even PIE are unsupported.
> >
> > Because?
> >
> > Because it is Celtic and Celtic is western PIE.
>
> That's no answer. That's a repetition of your unsupported claim.
>
> =========
> Matthew 7.3
> Arnaud
> ==============

And that is a repetition of a quote from me.


> > Because it explains the long vowels + unvoiced
> > alternating with short vowels plus voiced.
>
> It does not explain the nasal.
>
> ===========
> Cf. Latin rumpo rupi
> frango fregi
>
> Why should -n- infix be a proof
> a word is not PIE ?

Your postulated ? explains the Latin n-infix?

>
> A root that alternates -pp-/-mp/-p-/-kk-/-nk-/-k- is obviously not
> IE.
>
> =======
> It's most probably Celtic.
> Arnaud
>
Because?

> ==========
>
> > We are dealing with the root which surfaces
> > in Germanic as *(s)-dhu?p or *(s)-dhupp-
> > with extra -n- in some cases.
>
> Surfaces? What does that mean?
>
> ============
> has lexicals reflexes.

I am not debating optics. What do you mean?


> ========
> > > *kat-
> > > Germanic *hanti is a LW from Uralic *kom-t-(i)
> >
> > It might be.
> >
> > I was a bit desperate that
> > you may write some sensical.
> > Good news.
> > Arnaud
> >
> > > There is no geminate at all here.
> >
> > No geminate where?
> >
> > In *hanti < *kom-t-(i)
> > Arnaud
> >
> Semantically "side, flank" > "cover, protection", Celtic *kassi-,
> related to Chatti.
>
> =========
>
> Hand is the same as Cover, protection ??

The '>' means '='?


Torsten