Re: Taurisci and Przeworsk

From: tgpedersen
Message: 56024
Date: 2008-03-27

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > > must be a place where some *Teuri- once lived.
> > > >
> > > > GK: Not necessarily "north of the Sudetes" . It
> > > > may indicate that the "Teuri-homers" came from
> > > > wherever the Teuri-home was, not that the Teuri-home
> > > > was north of the Sudetan range where they were placed
> > > > by Ptolemy. They could have been (by 160 CE)
> > > > Germanized elements pushed from the old Tauriscan
> > > > haunts south of the Danube by Burebista. They could
> > > > have come from elsewhere also.
> > >
> > > No, they came from somewhere where 'Teuri' used to
> > > live.

>
> > Which was not necessarily where the Norican Taurisci were.****
>
> Aha. So there was another Teuri- people around. Which was it?
>
> Here's an interesting fact: One of Ariovistus' wives was a Sueuan.
> The other one was a Norican, in other words a Tauriska, sent by
> their king Vocio, apparently for dynastic reasons. Caesar could be
> pleased that no offspring survived of that union.
>
>
> > > Boio-haim- is the former home of the non-Germanic Boii.
> > > Teurio-chaim- must therefore be the home of the non-Germanic
> > > Teuri, not of the Germanic Turingi.
> >
> > ****GK: That's the logic.*****
>
> Yes.
>
> > > > > I was wondering if the indirectly documented *Teuri- in
> > > > > the Czech lands might possibly be the same people as the
> > > > > Taurisci in Carinthia? If so, those Taurisci were the
> > > > > nearest Celtic people to Latènicize Przeworsk.
> > > >

from Hubert: The Greatness and Decline of the Celts
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/celts/celt4.pdf

'The Turoni, a section of whom (perhaps the majority) had settled on
the Loire, are mentioned in Ptolemy's time in the upper valley of the
Main, south of the Chatti. [Ptol., ii, 11, 22.] They had become
Germanized, like the Volcae later.'
'
cf. the Latin names for the city of Tours in Orbis Latinus
http://www.columbia.edu/acis/ets/Graesse/orblatt.html
'Turoni, Metropolis civitas Turonum, Turonorum, Turonensium od.
Turenorum, Augusta Turonum, T(h)oronus, Turonica civitas, Caesarodunum'
('Turonum' instead of 'Turonorum' is the Celtic gen.pl. used by Romans
in names of cities in former Celtic areas)
with the Latin names for the city of Torun´:
'Thorunium, -num (Borussorum)'


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