Re: Finnish KASKI

From: jouppe
Message: 55931
Date: 2008-03-25

Could this system do away with ü and ï then??
Jouppe

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
<miguelc@...> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:52:24 -0600, "Patrick Ryan"
> <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> >But, still, was *ü in the original PU vowel inventory?
> >
> >The reason I ask is because I am, what you might call, a Noahist
who
> >believes that all languages descend from a common source.
> >
> >I can easily see a PU vowel scheme of *i, *a, *u, or *e, *a, *o,
or even *i,
> >*e, *a, *u, *o but it is difficult for me to see how *ü would fit
into any
> >of the schemes above.
>
> The PU first-syllable vowel scheme in Pekka Sammallahti's
> system is:
>
> u ï ü i
> o e
> a ä
>
> In non-initial syllables, there are only:
>
> ï i
> a ä
>
> An interesting proposal by Tálos and Abondolo drops the
> mid-height vowels /o/ and /e/ in favour of a system with
> distinctive length. Unfortunately, Abondolo does not give a
> full account in the preface to "The Uralic Languages",
> merely a brief sketch and a couple of examples (UEW =
> Uralisches etym. Wört.):
>
> nest water dwelling long urine
> UEW *pesä *wete *kota *ko(n')c'V *ku(n')c'e
> Samm. *pesä *weti *kota *kuns'ï
> T&A *pääsä *witi *kaata *kun't'ï *kuun't'ï
>
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> miguelc@...
>