Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')

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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Re: dhuga:ter ('LARYNGEALS')


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Ryan
>
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> >
> > I suggest you investigate the case of
> > Touareg k.az. "grey"
> > a little closer.
> >
> > Because H was there,
> > the whole skeletton is now emphatic.
> > ghH_s > k._z.
> > No H and it should be **g_s
> >
> > Look Closer.
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
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>
> Arnaud,
>
> if you actually think that Twareg <k.az.> entitles you to, on your own
> initiative, to hypothesize PIE *ghHes-, and inform no one this is your
> 'invention', then you are asleep if you do not know this is thoroughly
> disreputable.
>
> I wasted my time looking for this stem which is but a figment of your
> fevered imagination.
>
> Truly, your mind is not suited for linguistics.
>
> Patrick
>
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>
> I think Germanic *gre:waz
> entitles me to hypothesize *ghreH-wos
> (I suppose I'm not alone)
> Germanic also has *ghreH-s-
> > LW French gris
> Then, on account of my personal theory
> the root in there can be *gh_H1 (r infix)
> (I agree this is my invention)


> Now my invention is supported
> by Arabic jiHrit. "very old woman" (r suffix)
> the same as German Greis (r infix)
> and yesterday

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There is not nor has there ever been an infix in PIE-derived languages.
Rasmussen's *o-infix is oure fantasy. The only phenomenon that looks like an
infix is *CVnC, which is either 1) a metathesis from *CVC-n-; or 2), if
before a dorsal stop (*g/*g^/*k/*k^), it can be a retention of an earlier
dorsal nasal. PIE had two dorsal nasals, *ng, and *nk, which are denasalized
to *g and *k initially, but sometimes retain their nasality in final
position. These are _not_ pre-nasalized dorsal stops!

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> I opened my Tamazheq-Tafransist AlQamus
> by the honourable Carl. K Prasse tome 1
> on page 437 and I found k.z. "grey"
> Which I consider is the legitimate cognate
> of PIE *ghreH1-w, *ghreH1-s
> and phonotactic *ghH1-s > k°s-nos
> Arabic j_H_r_t.
> Phonotaxis and emphatic propagation
> by any glottal or pharyngal/uvular
> makes *ghH_s into *k.z.
>
> I'm afraid *you* are the one not suited.
>
> I'm grateful you found dj_b the other day.
>
> Arnaud

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You have attempted to justify deceit.

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The root you are looking for and not finding is *g^her-, 'shimmer'; your PIE
examples are all derived from it.


Patrick

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