Re: Pre-PIE vowel System (WAS : Re: Re: Re: [tied] hoopoe)

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55790
Date: 2008-03-23

How about _which_ theory of MCV's????

And what specifically are you trying to "refute"?

We are not mind-readers.


Patrick


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From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Pre-PIE vowel System (WAS : Re: Re: Re: [tied] hoopoe)


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Ryan
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> > Only in the case of Pre PAA *u,
> > I remind you of my system :
> > PAA *a = PIE *e
> > PAA *i = PIE *i
> > PAA *u = PIE *o
> > Pre-PAA *u > emphatic = PIE *u
> > Arnaud
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> PAA *i/*a/*u = PIE *A (*e/ *o/ *°/ *Ø)
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> Patrick
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> Let's tackle this fancy theory.
> Once again,
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> I maintain that MCV's theory is
> completely and unambiguously
> refuted by macro-comparative data.
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> Fundamental *a = PIE *e
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> Proto-form *naHm "(piece of) meat"
> Basque mami
> (abnormal form which seems to
> refute Trask's theorem about *m)
> PIE me:m-so (assimilation)
> Arabic lahma (l > n as in la? = ne)
> Bantu nyama
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> Fundamental *o = PIE *o
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> Proto-form *pots "penis"
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> Basque buztan
> Familiar txotxo
> Greek pos-thê
> Uralic Lapp buoc^c^
> Mordvin papa
> KAbyle
> ibbus^en (adult)
> tabbus^t (boy)
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> Fundamental *u = PIE *u
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> *tup "(over-)full"
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> Basque zu / tsu in unclear
> it's probably from
> *polu > wozu > zu
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> Germanic *s-tup
> Arabic t._b_z, t._b_&, t._f_H
> Hausa tumfaye
> Chinese chong1 < *tup-ng
> Turcic do:-l < *tup-l-
> Uralic
> UEW 518 *tup-di-
> UEW 520 *tup-mi-
> UEW 521 *tup-H-i-
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> Fundamental *i = PIE *i
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> Proto-form *yid "full moon"
>
> Basque (h)il
> LAtin i:d-u:s
> Egyptian y_&_H *yi&aH
> Coptic yoh
>
> Requiescat in Pace.
>
> Arnaud
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