Re: hoopoe

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 55768
Date: 2008-03-23

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Ryan

Arnaud, Nostratic glottalized /t?s/ and aspirates /ts/ coalesced in Egyptian
to /ts/.

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No,
*ts became Eg. s
while *s became Eg. sh

ts? became Eg. dj

Arnaud
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<D> was, I believe, pronounced /tsY/ -> /tS/ while <'> began as /ts/ but
became probably /¿/ at an early date (probably through /?/).
Patrick
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???
This does not make sense.
You should have been in bed, old man.

Arnaud
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I never said <D> was /t?/.

I said that.
Arnaud
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Nostratic /t?/ and /t/ coalesced in Egyptian to /t/.

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This is not true.
I agree t? became t
when the initial is not glottalized.

Arnaud
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You need to emend PIE to pre-PIE.

PAA *i/*a/*u = PIE *A (*e/ *o/ *°/ *Ø)

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I think we need to discuss this
in a separate string.

Arnaud
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Not sure what you have in mind here.

<3> = /r/; no relationship to /S/

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Egyptian
3_w = Hausa ts?awo "length"

Arnaud
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<k> is a velar stop; <q> and <g> are velar nasals.

Patrick

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<q> is a velar nasal ????

Could you please confirm this ?

Arnaud

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