Re: hoopoe

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55740
Date: 2008-03-22

They are not two values.

The most frequent spelling is db with a bar under the d.

A convention called Manuel de codage recommends Db.

Some scholars, I think mainly Germans, use dj-b.

All mean the same thing.

Since Egyptian <D> derives from both Nostratic *t?s and *ts, it is an
affricate.

In my opinion, it passed into Egyptian as voiceless but palatalized: /tsh/.

Its descendent in Coptic, however, is usually regarded as being /dzh/.

This is not onomatopeic. It means 'tuft'.

Bear in mind, that I believe the proper reading is Dwb not Db.

Budge has many uses but unless you are an Egptologist, you will never figure
out how to use him properly.

Faulkner is not too expensive, and there may be a newer French dictionary of
which I am not aware that would be suitable.

Beinlich seems to include everything but the kitchen sink. Use him. But look
at his sources, which he kindly lists.


Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [tied] hoopoe


> M. Ryan
>
> Congratulations !
> This is the ultimate proof.
>
> But this sign has two values :
> D_b or dj_b
>
> I prefer dj_b
> and this dj is better read ts?
> ts? _b < *ts_?_p
>
> Great !
>
> I have ququp for hoopoe
> in Budge.
>
> Arnaud
>
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