Re: *s-mobile

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55458
Date: 2008-03-18

No one knows certainly what the origin of PIE *s-mobile is.

I have made one proposal, which I believe is somewhat credible, but I have
no way at present to enhance the odds. As you know, it is that *s-mobile
derives from *su (*sWA), 'well, good', and hence is an emphatic, perfective,
or admirative. Of course, if we found an ancient PIE-derived language that
say, in cuneiform, _consistently_ indicated *s-mobile's by initial SU/SU,
then that would strength my case considerably.

Your prefix reminds me of the Egyptian causative in *s-, which I reconstruct
as *so, related to PIE *so: <snf.j>, 'I succor' <- 'I (-j) [cause] him (s-)
to exhale/breathe (nf)'.

As for your suggestion on *swé(-)sor-, it is not an agentive. It is a rare
nominal compound meaning simply 'clan-woman', used similarly to Ebonic
'sister'. Its original meaning has been re-introduced. The meaning of
'sister' might give you a hint as to the meaning of 'brother'.

Also, remember *swe-lo-.

To suggest multiple origins for *s-mobile is premature until we can agree
on, at least, one source.


Patrick

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> From: Patrick Ryan
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> dH- too
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> Do you not even know what you write?
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> From below (sic!):
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> "s-wed-to:r : the one (s-) who is wed (wed-)"
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> I have Akkadian grammars and have read them?
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> Patrick
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> I hope you were more successful
> with Akkadian than with Saussure.
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> su + Verb => "the one that" Verb
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> Obviously, this is *one* among
> the many origins of s-mobile.
>
> Arnaud
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