Re: dhuga:ter

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 55454
Date: 2008-03-18

There is no such thing as *H1 'soldifying'; the process simply does not
exist in PIE.

Arnaud is almost right about the ultimate base for 'dug': it is pre-PIE
*dhe, 'teat', which for 'suck' has been expanded by *H to *dheH-; and for
*dheug(h)- by *w(a), which here is means 'a pair of, set of', which produced
a non-attested *dhew-, 'set of teats'. The verbal idea was contributed by
pre-PIE *gh(a), which meant 'hang', creating *dheug(h)-, 'hang [from] the
set of teats', 'milk'.


Patrick


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Subject: Re: Re[6]: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick McCallister
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Re[6]: [tied] Latin -idus as from dH- too
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>
> Brian mentioned it was of unknown origin. Are there
> any Celtic forms that could be construed as ancestral?
> What are the other forms in other languages? e.g.
> Germanic? I'm guessing that it's from the same root as
> daughter.
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>
> It's not supposed to have a clear origin.
> It's structurally the same thing as *dheH1
> Starting with *dhoH1
> and supposing H1 "solidifies"
> and becomes voiced,
> *dhoH1 > *dhox > dug
>
> NWB ?
>
> Arnaud
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>