Re: Latin -idus as from dH- too

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 55327
Date: 2008-03-16

----- Original Message -----
From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal

>Olsen's claim is that when the root ends in non-syllabic *h1/2, the
>suffix is *-tHr/lom > Italic *-þr/lom > *-ðr/lom > -brum/-bulum.
>Otherwise it's *-tr/lom > -trum/-culum.
>
>Piotr
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>How does she explain these words ?

Like everybody else does: *siuh1-tlóm, *me:ms-róm.
Miguel
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So *s is a laryngeal ?

As regards *su:bula,
It's quite obvious I disagree with *siuH1

Meillet p 964
Pour "coudre", l'i.e avait une racine *syu:
avec doublet su:,
dans latin suô, il n'y a pas de trace de-y-.

I suppose you can read this muy facil.

My own explanation is :
- the root is *s_z_w (Two syllables)
- z is y or h2

quite strangely, this root is never attested
with any vowel in the skeleton,
- s°zw > WESt (Latin) su:
- s°zw > EAst (skr) siyw
- sz°w > s°w > All su:

Egyptian has s_z_b
Uralic (UEW p432) has
saps'e "Netznadel"
saps looks like *sazb metathesized into
*sazb > *saps-
The IE word is borrowed sone
(UEW p 441)

Why should we need H1 in this root ?

Arnaud

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