Re: Re[5]: [tied] Mille (thousand)

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 54979
Date: 2008-03-10

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian M. Scott

> None of your examples is a morpheme
> nor an initial phoneme.

Irrelevant: your objection (which you should not have
snipped, as it provided essential context) was 'I don't
think something can come and go without thought', and I was
responding to what you actually wrote.
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ok, got it 5/5
Delete, distort, then say it's wrong.

Fortunately,
I know nice Americans
so I believe the problem is somewhere else.
Or somebody else.

Arnaud
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That none of my
examples involves a morpheme is doubly irrelevant, since it
hasn't been shown that s-mobile is a morpheme.
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You have *not* proved it's not (at least) one morpheme either.

Fifilska
as you say.

Arnaud
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For a
current English example with an initial phoneme you can have
<about> ~ <'bout>, and there are lots more with initial
unstressed vowels. Initial /h/ is also a bit shaky.

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So what ?
You mean neither /°/ nor /h/ is phonemic in English ?

Have you ever read Labov ?
Have you ever described a real language in your life ?
You should try this experience.

Arnaud
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> It's just colloquialisms.

In other words, it's real language. If that was intended as
an objection to the examples, it's surely one of the
silliest statements that I've seen here -- and that's saying
something.
Brian
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I'm interested in real languages.
Colloquialisms are not un-connected with
the rest of the language structure.

Silliest ? Incompetent ?
Aren't your fake PIE flowers nice ?

I prefer real flowers.

Arnaud
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