Re: Re[2]: [tied] Grimm shift as starting point of "Germanic"

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 54854
Date: 2008-03-08

There are Waldo, Hrolf and a whole slew of
monothematic Gmc. names --among among Scandinavians,
see the sagas. Ask Thor and Odin what they think of
monothematic names.

--- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

> At 5:47:03 PM on Thursday, March 6, 2008, tgpedersen
> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> > <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> >> At 4:34:47 PM on Thursday, March 6, 2008,
> tgpedersen
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M.
> Scott"
> >>> <BMScott@> wrote:
>
> >>>> At 3:51:24 PM on Thursday, March 6, 2008,
> tgpedersen
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>> [...]
>
> >>>>> Typical Germanic names are two-element:
> Ro-bert,
> >>>>> Sigi-mar, and yours truly.
>
> >>>> I think that you greatly underestimate the
> number of
> >>>> simplex Germanic names.
>
> >>>> [...]
>
> >>> Please continue?
>
> >> In every Gmc. naming tradition that I've examined
> in any
> >> detail, simplex names and monothematic
> diminutives are
> >> well-represented.
>
> > Kuhn argues for a good deal of them being other
> than that
> > (names in -so: Hariso, names beginning with P-:
> Poppo etc)
>
> A great many, however, have good Gmc. pedigrees.
>
> >> That includes OE, ON, WFrk., and
> >> Hisp.-Goth., as well as the material in Woolf.
>
> > Reference?
>
> For?
>
> Woolf is that old war-horse _The Old Germanic
> Principles of
> Name-Giving_, by Henry B. Woolf, The Johns Hopkins
> Press,
> 1939.
>
> >> The fact that the three names in question aren't
> >> dithematic is no great bar to their being Gmc.
>
> > In either case it would have helped. The way it is
> you
> > have to match perfectly with an existing
> monothematic
> > Germanic name.
>
> Only if you think that a dithematic name has to have
> proto-
> and deuterothemes that match perfectly with existing
> Gmc.
> proto- and deuterothemes, respectively. A plausible
> Gmc.
> etymology is a more realistic goal.
>
> Brian
>
>
>



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