Re: Grimm shift as starting point of "Germanic"

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "george knysh" <gknysh@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Grimm shift as starting point of
> "Germanic"
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> > --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
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> > GK: So Grimm, unique vocabulary items,
> grammatical
> > and syntactical divergences, are all "indisputable
> > data" and there is no certainty in the timing of
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> > of these?
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> In my opinion, only the Grimm changes are
> "indisputable data".
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> The other marks of Germanic are all arguable.

****GK: I don't understand your point. By "unique
vocabulary items","grammatical divergences", and
"syntactical divergences" (to mention but these) is
meant, is it not, items which are distinct in the
Germanic languages as compared to other IE linguistic
families. Rather than distinctions between Germanic
and reconstructed PIE (which is what Grimm is all
about?). What is arguable about these items?****



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