Re: Rayim

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 54708
Date: 2008-03-06

I cannot imagine very many people differing with Piotr's explanation.

As as addition to and not a change from, I could add that I believe we can
pursue the meaning of *re:- back even a little farther.

The root *re:(H)- ultimately meant 'what is scratched': *re- + *?a
(stative).

What is scratched represents a number, therefore a quantity of non-abstract
items.

One method of differentiating the literal from the applied meaning was
adding derivational -*yA, hence *ré:(H)-i-, 'quantity (of goods)'.

re:(H)- in its literal meaning ('scratched') can be seen in words like 2.
*re:(H)-d-, 'score, scratch, scrape'; and, non-statively as *re- in 2.
*re-w-, 'rip up, dig, root'.

Of course, nouns can be denominalized without additional formants; and that
process yields the PIE verb 1. *re:(H)-, 'calculate, count', really just
'quantify'.


Patrick



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Rayim


> Ah hah! Many books I've seen list Latin res as
> "unknown". Some also claim a different origin for
> Spanish res "cow, steer, beef, beast."
>
>
> --- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> > On 2008-03-05 17:21, kishore patnaik wrote:
> >
> > > Can anyone please explain the etymology of the
> > word Rayim( inner
> > > prosperity)?
> >
> > <rayím> is the accusative of <rayís> 'property,
> > possession, goods,
> > wealth' (usually masculine). Skt. rayí- comes from
> > *reh1-í- (cf. gen.sg.
> > ra:yás < *reh1-j-ós). The synonymous <rá:s> (acc.
> > <rá:m ~ rá:yam>) is
> > from the same source. The original pattern of
> > declension was probably
> > something like *rais, acc. *ra:m, gen. *ra:yás, with
> > analogical case
> > forms rearranging themselves into alternative
> > paradigms. Anyway,
> > *reh1-i- (cf. Lat. re:s 'thing, object, property,
> > profit', acc. re:m)
> > seems to be a deverbal noun from *(h)reh1- 'grant,
> > give, yield'
> > (attested in Indo-Iranian). Other derivatives
> > include *reh1-tí- > Skt.
> > ra:tí- 'gift, favour'.
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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