Re: Basque, Etruscan and Common Sound Changes (was: Finnish KASKA)

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 54397
Date: 2008-03-01

As I remember the history of the Etruscan alphabet is
pretty well documented and is on line somewhere. It's
not from Attic, obviously but from one of the Greek
alphabets used by settlers in and around present day
Naples


--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

>
> >
> > I will restate what I have previously written.
> >
> > PIE *d is Basque and Etruscan l :
> >
> > To eat *H1ed :
> > Basque Hel Hal
>
> That can't be right because of
>
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>
> You're jumping to the conclusion
> a little bit too fast.
> Orthodox PIE *d has to be split in two :
> *d and *t
> Now,
> I tend to think that the Etruscan alphabet
> *cannot* be inherited *thru* Greek
>
> A major reason is Etruscan has
> a extra letter between n and p
> as in Hebrew (ts?)
> that Greek does not have
>
> This is why I think
> ETruscan is from Phoenician
> with no intermediary
> and the value is Semitic
> So that theta is t? (t?ot)
>
> to sit
> PIE *sed
> Etr satH = sat?
>
> heaven, moon
>
> PIE *deiw
> Etr tivr
>
> => Loanword ?
>
> to build
> PIE dem
> Etr t(H)am
>
> > Number ten *dek
> > Etruscan alkh
>
> I agree that Etr alcH is ten, and further that Etr
> sar (usually
> translated as 10) is something else, possibly 12
> (plural of sa, 6).
> However, I'd reconstruct the number as *atl'&k (tl'
> is an ejective
> lateral affricate).
>
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> I think *dek = l_x
>
> Another example is
> hupe "lying"
> = Latin cub-are
>
> Now
> the question is not just
> grabbing for words.
> The changes must account for the system.
>
> Unvoiced *k = x
> ***AND***
> Voiced *b = p
>
> The whole logic of correspondences
> counts **more**
> than individual "grabbings".
> It shows that there was a proto-system
> and this system proceeded to a new stage
> thru logical processes
> that accounts for all phonetic series.
>
> Arnaud
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