Re: Early Indo-European loanwords preserved in Finnish

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53949
Date: 2008-02-22

What would you prefer to use to designate the non-Semitic/non-Egyptian
languages of Afrasian then?


Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Early Indo-European loanwords preserved in Finnish


> Hamitic, besides not being a valid branch. also
> carries secondary derrogative meanings associated with
> Ham, the "cursed" son of Noah. In that sense, it comes
> across as racist to some.
> Indo-Germanic sounds quaint --don't only the Germans
> use it?
>
> --- Richard Wordingham <richard@...>
> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> > <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Because it [Semito-Hamitic] creates a false
> > dichotomy between
> > > Semitic and non-Semitic, presupposing that all
> > non-Semitic AA
> > > languages form one branch. Given what we know
> > about
> > > AA, that is misleading at best and comes across as
> > > ignorant
> >
> > The problem here I presume is that we now seem not
> > to have a branch
> > called Hamitic. In the interests of Anglo-French
> > acronymic agreement,
> > would English 'Chado-Semitic' (CS) be acceptable?
> > Or is
> > 'Indo-Germanic' to be disparaged as ignorant?
> >
> > > --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
> >
> > > > What is supposed to be wrong with
> > > > Semito-Hamitic
> > > > or Chamito-sémitique ?
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I think the "symmetrical"
> > > > Afro-Asiatic from "Indo-European"
> > > > is not better,
> > > > The symmetry crumbles when
> > > > PIE becomes part of CS.
> >
> > Should not Semito-Hamitic-Japhethic then be
> > simplified to Nohic?
> > (This is not Noahism!) Actually, such a group would
> > then meet my
> > preferred definition of Nostratic sensu lato - the
> > crown clade of the
> > original languages of the sacred texts of the people
> > of the book.
> > (Avestan and Sanskrit can be added to taste - they
> > do not change the
> > meaning of the term.)
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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