Re: PIE -*C-presents

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53740
Date: 2008-02-19

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: PIE -*C-presents


> On 2008-02-19 18:36, Patrick Ryan wrote:
>
> > Unless I am misunderstanding your response, it seems beside my point.
> >
> >
> > In the words above, I would consider the roots to be:
> >
> > *Ha(:)w- *Ha(;)l- *mey-
>
> I try to base my opinions on observable evidence. There _is_ evidence
> that the final *-s in *h2wegs- (*g, not *g^ -- sorry, I misspelt the
> root in my previous posting) is an old suffix. Namely, *h2aug- is more
> or less synonymous with *h2wegs-, and the same pattern (CeCC- : CCeCs-)
> recurs in a few similar instances. By contrast, to justify the
> segmentation of *h2aug- into *h2au-g- you'd have to show at the very
> least that there are other roots of the shape *h2au-C- or *h2w-eC- with
> a meaning similar to 'grow, increase'. Without such evidence there is no
> case.
>
> Piotr


***

I think "without no evidence, there is no case" is going a bit far.

As 'evidence', I can point to an overwhelming number of roots of *CVC(V)
form. Is that the limit for a root? I believe it is, you do not.

As a second bit of 'evidence, failure to identify an *aw- root with a
related meaning certainly is of interest.

Would you agree that 11. *awe:-, 'exert one's self', might be semantically
related thtough the idea of 'more than normal'?


Patrick