Re: Finnish KASKA

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53724
Date: 2008-02-19

Jouppe,

do you think umlauted vowels were original (an oxymoron, of course)?

Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "jouppe" <jouppe@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKA


The list of words I presented: appi, jousi, kalki, koski and kusi are
not reconstructions but real words in a real language. They also
constitute solid counter evidence to your 'fallen-out-of-the-sky'
umlaut hypothesis. Where did it come from?

Jouppe

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
<fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
>
> Very clever but you reveal your ignorance again:
>
> Look for ex. at appi 'father-in-law'. jousi 'bow', kalki 'hair, down
> straw', koski 'rapids' and kusi 'urine' and their reconstruction in
> the table: http://koti.welho.com/jschalin/prefinnic.htm
> Ponder and learn.
>
> And 'kaski' was of course not PU, it was borrowed in the west later.
>
> Jouppe
> =================
>
> You are blithely taking
> standard PU reconstructions for gold.
> Some associations of vowels are impossible :
>
> a > a
> a_i > ä_i
>
> o > o
> o _i > ö_i
>
> u > u
> u_i > y_i
>
> Western PU has the same kind of umlaut
> as German has.
> But this does not apply to Kant / MAns
>
> Your reconstruction with final -i
> and a o u
> as main vowels are just impossible.
>
> Arnaud
> ===================
>