Re: A possible Homeland of the Indo-European Languages

From: mkelkar2003
Message: 53628
Date: 2008-02-18

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
>
> Runasimi also has an agglutinative structure with few
> consonant clusters. So are you proposing an "out of
> the Andes" theory? Then there's Inuit --"out of
> Greenland"?

No.

M. Kelkar



> --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> > <gabaroo6958@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's because they are hypotheses. What IE
> > scholars
> > > have done is eliminate the improbable and
> > investigate
> > > what's left. Ever hear of Occam's Razor?
> > Scientists
> > > use it all the time. Science is not a matter of
> > blind
> > > faith.
> > >
> >
> > I was just wating for you to bring up the Occam's
> > razor. As jouppe
> > says below
> >
> > "
> > Petri Kallio has now on the contrary made a good
> > case for bringing Proto-Uralic slightly closer to
> > present by one
> > millenium or so,
> >
> http://www.kotikielenseura.fi/virittaja/hakemistot/jutut/kallio1_2006.
> > html based mainly on Indo-Aryan loanword evidence."
> >
> > "Mainly on the "Indo-Aryan loanwoard evidence(!!!)"
> >
> >
> > So if THAT evidence can be explained through just
> > ONE theory of south
> > to north movement from Anatolian or South Asia
> > homeland then Occam's
> > razor would speedily apply. Once again Elst (2000)
> > has nailed it:
> >
> > "This much at least is well-known, that both Uralic
> > and Dravidian have
> > an agglutinative structure. In a first acquaintance
> > with Hungarian
> > and Tamil, it is striking how both have long words
> > with the stress on
> > the first syllable and very few of the consonant
> > clusters so typical
> > of IE. The case against this Siberian Urheimat for
> > Uralic rests
> > precisely on a European Urheimat theory of IE, as
> > Rédei�s objection to
> > Hajdu�s position illustrates. So, if we drop
> > the European Urheimat
> > assumption for IE, we need not maintain it for
> > Uralic either."
> >
> > What is that expression about shooting in the foot
> > again?
> >
> > M. Kelkar
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.hjholm.de/
> > > >
> > > > 1.3. Since most scholars incline towards a
> > homeland
> > > > in the steppes
> > > > north of the Black Sea ('Pontus', cf. e.g.
> > Anthony
> > > > 2001:13f), here is
> > > > a somewhat outdated attempt of a >slide show of
> > this
> > > > first option. An
> > > > updated version is only available as this single
> > map
> > > > graph >update
> > > > map. Note that neither this Urheimat/homeland
> > > > hypothesis, nor the
> > > > dozens of other ones, nor the migration routes
> > are
> > > > in fact
> > > > convincingly proven.
> > > >
> > > > M. Kelkar
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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