Re: A possible Homeland of the Indo-European Languages

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 53616
Date: 2008-02-18

Runasimi also has an agglutinative structure with few
consonant clusters. So are you proposing an "out of
the Andes" theory? Then there's Inuit --"out of
Greenland"?

--- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> >
> > That's because they are hypotheses. What IE
> scholars
> > have done is eliminate the improbable and
> investigate
> > what's left. Ever hear of Occam's Razor?
> Scientists
> > use it all the time. Science is not a matter of
> blind
> > faith.
> >
>
> I was just wating for you to bring up the Occam's
> razor. As jouppe
> says below
>
> "
> Petri Kallio has now on the contrary made a good
> case for bringing Proto-Uralic slightly closer to
> present by one
> millenium or so,
>
http://www.kotikielenseura.fi/virittaja/hakemistot/jutut/kallio1_2006.
> html based mainly on Indo-Aryan loanword evidence."
>
> "Mainly on the "Indo-Aryan loanwoard evidence(!!!)"
>
>
> So if THAT evidence can be explained through just
> ONE theory of south
> to north movement from Anatolian or South Asia
> homeland then Occam's
> razor would speedily apply. Once again Elst (2000)
> has nailed it:
>
> "This much at least is well-known, that both Uralic
> and Dravidian have
> an agglutinative structure. In a first acquaintance
> with Hungarian
> and Tamil, it is striking how both have long words
> with the stress on
> the first syllable and very few of the consonant
> clusters so typical
> of IE. The case against this Siberian Urheimat for
> Uralic rests
> precisely on a European Urheimat theory of IE, as
> Rédei�s objection to
> Hajdu�s position illustrates. So, if we drop
> the European Urheimat
> assumption for IE, we need not maintain it for
> Uralic either."
>
> What is that expression about shooting in the foot
> again?
>
> M. Kelkar
>
>
>
>
>
> > --- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.hjholm.de/
> > >
> > > 1.3. Since most scholars incline towards a
> homeland
> > > in the steppes
> > > north of the Black Sea ('Pontus', cf. e.g.
> Anthony
> > > 2001:13f), here is
> > > a somewhat outdated attempt of a >slide show of
> this
> > > first option. An
> > > updated version is only available as this single
> map
> > > graph >update
> > > map. Note that neither this Urheimat/homeland
> > > hypothesis, nor the
> > > dozens of other ones, nor the migration routes
> are
> > > in fact
> > > convincingly proven.
> > >
> > > M. Kelkar
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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