Re: Indo-Uralic?

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 53523
Date: 2008-02-17

> PU *nohu "woman" has nothing to do with PIE *gw_n
> and has to be compared with :
> Sino-tibetan noh "woman"
> Chinese nü3 "woman"
> Tibetan mnah "a bride"
> and you can see that Salish has *nexw "woman"
>
> Refuted.
>
> Arnaud
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'has to be compared with' is utterly ambiguous. Do you mean loans or
are you establishing cognates here? In either case you have to
postulate a lot of speculative presuppositions.

Jouppe
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I don't think "has to be" is ambiguous.
Whatever the status of Uralic word *nohu "woman"
when it comes to Sino-Tibetan or Salish,
the structure of Uralic is nicely exhibited
by all the other words.
And this refutes any connection between nohu
and PIE guneH2.

Arnaud
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The reconstruction like pseudo-Finnish kesä is worse than bad.
Moksha is kiza : impossibly derivable from this thing **kesä

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Finnish 'pesä' is Moksha 'piza'
Jouppe
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So what ?
Finnish e and Moksha i correspond.
These languages are close relatives.
I'd be grateful if you add meanings to the words.
It means "nest"

Arnaud
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Now again we are discussing European languages, like Finno-Permic and
PIE. What has China and Eastern Eurasia to with it? Pseudoscience is
forbidden by the rules of the forum.
Jouppe
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Uralic originates in Western Siberia
Most probably from the Ob and Ienissei Basin.

Do you deny this obvious fact ?

Finnish kesä "summer"
Moksha kiza
Turkish kizdirmak "hot"

Finnish pesä "nest"
Moksha piza
Tungus pubi "nest"

It's not pseudo-science.

Arnaud
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