Re: Indo-Aryans outside of India

--- Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:

> Thanx, it's an excellent introduction.

****GK: Yes, by and large. There's just one context
I'm not too sure about: Babaev's "Sinus" for the Don.
In various copies of Pliny I've consulted this is
rather "Silis". And there is an additional difficulty.
It is quite possible that Pliny may have gotten this
"Silis" from a source about Alexander's exploits which
confused Don and Iaxartes. In NH 6.49, he talks about
"...flumine Iaxarte, quod Scythae Silim vocant,
Alexander militesque eius Tanain putavere esse." Some
interpreters feel that "Silis" can be reconciled with
the older name of the Syr-Darya. But B's Temarunda
analysis seems OK.****

Given that

> the
> Indo-Aryans were pushed by the Iranians. Is there
> any
> evidence of Indo-Aryan in present Iran? Or would the
> fact that Indo-Aryan and Proto-iranian were so
> closely
> related completely blot out any traces?

****GK: There's a couple of interesting articles I'm
presently reading. One by Gray(old (1927) but still
interesting in the Journal of the Royal Asiatic
Society. He claims that the Iranian plateau was
earlier occupied by the Indo-Aryans, who were pushed
out by the Iranians, leaving traces of their language
in the latter's speech as a substrate. A more recent
item (1973)by the late Oxford professor T. Burrow (The
Proto-IndoAryans), which I've just started to peruse,
seems to be headed towards a similar conclusion.****

>
> --- "Daniel J. Milton" <dmilt1896@...> wrote:
>
>
> > > For Hellenistic times, Oleg N. Trubachev (1999;
> > > elaborating on a hypothesis by Kretschmer 1944)
> > > suggests that there were Indo-Aryan speakers in
> > the
> > > Pontic steppe. The Maeotes and the Sindes, the
> > latter
> > > also known as "Indoi" and described by Hesychius
> > as an
> > > "an Indian people".[7]
> > ********
> > You can read a good discussion of the putative
> > Pontic Indians by
> > our founder, Cyril Babaev, at:
> > http://indoeuro.bizland.com/archive/article17.html
> > Dan
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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