Re: Meaning of Aryan: now, "white people"?

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53432
Date: 2008-02-16

I also participated with Trask; and I thnk Basque had /m/.

Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Meaning of Aryan: now, "white people"?


> Then I give him credit for having mentioned it. But
> I'm sure Trask was right. You'll have to go back and
> see what Trask wrote but it was pretty convincing.
> Bengtson didn't offer anything to back up his hunch.
> There was also a controversy re: mini and other modern
> Basque words beginning with /m/. Trask said they
> originally had /b/ or /nb/. I believe the rest of the
> Basque scholars all agreed with Trask.
>
>
> --- Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister
> > <gabaroo6958@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Be careful with Bengtson's information. Even after
> > > Larry Trask showed him that much of his Basque
> > > vocabulary consisted of loanwords from Romance, he
> > > refused to even consider the possibility. I don't
> > know
> > > how good his information is from other sources but
> > his
> > > work on Basque is seriously flawed because he lets
> > his
> > > grand design get in the way of facts.
> > > Basically Bengtson refused to believe that
> > pre-Basque
> > > lacked /m/, something that Basque specialists seem
> > to
> > > agree on. He also refused to consider words from
> > > Gascon, Aragonese as probable sources for
> > loanwords
> > > into Basque --e.g. eme "woman, female (morpheme)"
> > <
> > > Gascon heme "woman" < femina; okondo < native
> > Basque
> > > oko "arm" + ondo "bottom (morpheme)" from Gascon
> > or
> > > Spanish hondo are a couple I remember.
> >
> > Some details of this controversy are found on
> > Bengtson's Basque
> > database recently put online:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3b9cuq
> > http://tinyurl.com/2jxwmg
> >
> > Regards,
> > Francesco
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
>