Re: Re[4]: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary checklist

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53082
Date: 2008-02-14

You missed the one I have heard most often: /g& nait/.

Patrick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: Re[4]: [tied] PIE *a -- a preliminary checklist


> True dat
> See American English "good night" /gnay?/ /gud nay?/ <
> /gud nay?t/ < /gud nayt/
>
>
> --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> > At 12:17:41 AM on Thursday, February 14, 2008,
> > fournet.arnaud wrote:
> >
> > >>> I think the difference is glottal stop was a
> > phoneme in
> > >>> proto-Germanic
> >
> > >> Evidence?
> >
> > > Some sequences H2 + k / t become g / d
> > > Some don't
> >
> > Examples, please.
> >
> > >>> Now do you think bu?er for butter is part of the
> > >>> language? If yes, then it's phonemic in English
> > too.
> >
> > >> Is it? Or is it just an allophone of /t/?
> >
> > > I don't think so different sounds can be
> > allophones.
> >
> > It's not all that dissimilar. There's no doubt that
> > in many
> > varieties [?t] (simultaneous articulation) is an
> > allophone
> > of /t/, and [?] is just a short step away.
> >
> > > Otherwise /ng/ is an allophone of /h/
> > > Complementary distribution.
> > > People who make a regular use of -?- in bu?er
> > > probably have other words where -?- contrasts
> > > with -t-.
> >
> > 'Probably' isn't good enough, I'm afraid.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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