Re: IE homeland

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 52957
Date: 2008-02-13

Arnaud:

You related the spread of IE to the end of the Würm
glaciation.
I checked Wikipedia and they give a date of 10-15,000
years ago for the end of glaciation. --although I
didn't see anything specific regarding Würm
They also give a date of c. 9,500 BCE for the
invention of agriculture.
These dates seem to overlap.
Can you elucidate?

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PArt 2

Agricultural word : H2_r_H3
Oddities :
Indo-Iranian : doesn't exist
Armenian : ar-a-wr with -a-
Should not be there : CHC > zero
Tokharian : are : noun instead of verb

The next point is :
Basque sara-tu ; soro
Semitic : zara&
Kartvelian : zil
to cultivate is a verb with #z- as initial.
Only the western PIE can be old,
Eastern PIE with H2 instead of Z > Y
means loanwords from Western PIE.

CF. *zab
Western H2aw
Eastern yew
Anatolian seppi
KArtvelian zibziba
This word is phonetically clean.

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Sheep and Goats

The existence of a common PIE vocabulary
is a nearly complete *fiction*

Root *agwh-nos "lamb"
It works only with Celtic and Italic
Greek, Slavic and Germanic have a
loanword from Celtic *agw-n (h lost)

The supposedly *bhug "male"
must be corrected as *bu?-k
which accounts for
Irish *bukk-
Iranian forms like buz- < bug < bu?-k

Central PIE has a neolithic vocabulary
of Kartvelian origin.
Etc

All this supposedly neolithic construction
is a castle of cards.

Arnaud

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