Re: *a/*a: ablaut

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 52854
Date: 2008-02-12

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From: "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: *a/*a: ablaut



> > > Would it be accurate to say that the evidence is sufficient to
> > > warrant a belief that
> > >
> > > *wa:-g^-, *gla:-dh-u-, and *wa:-s- came into PIE with long
> > > vowels in place?
>
> How come there exists also *weik- "kill", *ghleidh- "glide"
> ("shine"), *wes- "be present"? Is it possible that these are words
> from an IE substrate?
>
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> No substrate, I think. Just different finals.

Final what?

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Should have said final: *wa: g^ *wei k

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> First though: why *wa:g^- and *weik-?
> Second: why gla:- as against *ghle(i)-?
> Do the consonants not have to match up for us to make any valid
> inferences?

They do, if we're talking descent, not loan.

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g la:- gh le(i)-


different initial

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> Third: I am not sure *wa:s- and *wes- are actually semantically
> related.

*wes- also means "stay overnight"

And BTW, what did you mean by 'come into PIE'? How?


Torsten


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Nothing earthshaking: just 'pass into by developing earlier in'.


Patrick


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