Re: *a/*a: ablaut

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 52853
Date: 2008-02-12

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@> wrote:
> >
> > There are a number of PIE stems which present clear evidence for
> *a/*a:
> > ablaut, and in which the presence of an internal laryngeal is
> unlikely
> > or impossible. Roots with this ablaut typically distinguish
> the "strong"
> > grade *a: and the "weak" grade *a (though their distribution may
be
> > disturbed by analogy) but have no zero grade. Let me discuss a
> > characteristic example:
> >
> > *wa(:)g^- 'break (hit, smash, etc.), get broken' is listed as
*weh2g
> (^)-
> > in LIV, but the analysis of the vowel quality as due to laryngeal
> > colouring is anything but satisfactory. A root like *//weh2g^//
> could be
> > expected to produce zero-grade derivatives with *uh2g^- and some
o-
> grade
> > forms like perf. *we-woh2g^-e. No such forms are attested
anywhere.
> We
> > have the Gk. present (*w)ágnu:mi 'I break' and perf. éa:ge 'is
> broken' <
> > *we-wá:g^-e, Skt. vájra- < *wág^-ro- 'thunderbolt' (a
> substantivised
> > adjective). Forms like *wag^- should not exist at all, as there
is
> no
> > way they could be derived from any allomorph of *//weh2g^//. Such
> > inconvenient forms, which LIV explains away, one by one,
> as "analogical
> > innovations", are found in several branches, while the expected
> reflexes
> > of *woh2g^- and *uh2g^- don't occur at all.
> > Piotr
>
>


> Not true: In Skt. vájra- < *weh2g^-ro- 'thunderbolt' => we have the
> loss of laryngeals before mediae in Indo-Iranian (see Lubotsky 81)
> => see also Skt. pajrá
>
> Lubotsky's article is available on line:
>
https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/dspace/bitstream/1887/2655/1/299_001.
> pdf
>
> Marius


I will add here a second article :

https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bitstream/1887/2656/1/299_002.pdf

Marius