Re: Existence of PIE *a (was: The meaning of life: PIE. *gWiH3w-)

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 52566
Date: 2008-02-10

Arnaud asks for data to support certain reconstructions.

I suggest he get a copy of Pokrny or whatever the recent French equivalent
is.

Regarding *g^hans-, there is no voiced velar spirant in the word.

If he thinks his *h represent presumably *H2 is a voiced velar spirant, let
him prove it.


Patrick

----- Original Message -----
From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Existence of PIE *a (was: The meaning of life: PIE.
*gWiH3w-)


> > ===========
> > There is no phonological contrast
> > between /a/ et /e/
> > neither in PIE nor PAA.
>
> See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/18118 and ensuing
> discussion for examples illustratating PIE *a contrasting with *e.
> Richard.
> ==============
> I think these examples seriously need
> a thorough examination
> Arnaud
> ==============
>
> *dha(m)b(h)-,
> =========
> What is the meaning ?
> Arnaud
> ==========
> *g^hans-,
> ============
> the root is gha-h-ans
> with -h- a velar voiced spirant.
> Hence bad.
> Root gh_H2-
> Chinese *nhgah and *nggahans
> Yukaghir, etc.
> Arnaud
> ==========
> *la(m)b(h)- [2x], *mad-, *mag^h-,
> *mag^-, *mand-, *man-us,
> =======
> *marko-,
> ======
> Obviously an Siberian loanword
> form *mor
> hence central PIE *mor > *mar-
> the *a in Celtic is from a loanword
> of Central PIE.
> Proves nothing
> Arnaud
> ============
> *matH-, *mat-, *mazdo-,
> ============
> *nant-,
> ======
> Is this the Paleo-European *nant? "valley"
> Proves nothing about PIE
> Arnaud
> =========
> *nas-, *pando-,
> *pank-/*pang-,
> *sal- (if *sa(m)-l-), *tap- (*tap-n-),
> *wank^-.
> ===
> What are the data that support these
> supposed PIE words ?
>
> Arnaud
> ==================
>
>