Re: Attila, Etzel (was: Alanic horseman)

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 52450
Date: 2008-02-07

Fortunately, like it's Hunnish ancestor, it too died
an untmely death. Although I hear, like Attila, it did
go over 100,000 miles but that was after devastating
your economy

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

> Yes, but the Edsel was infinitely more
> life-threatening!
>
>
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Attila, Etzel (was: Alanic
> horseman)
>
>
> > So you're saying the Edsel was the Attila of cars?
> >
> >
> > --- tolgs001 <george_st@...> wrote:
> >
> > > >It was a nasal stem, so from the strictly
> formal
> > > point of view it
> > > >should have been something like
> **atilo:N/**atilen-
> > > >
> > > >**otIly/**otIlen-, perhaps eventually levelled
> out
> > > to **otIlenI. But
> > > >if the Slavs understood the meaning of the
> name,
> > > they might have used
> > > >their native *atiko- > *otIcI, just replacing
> the
> > > Gothic diminutive
> > > >suffix with a Slavic one.
> > > >
> > > >Piotr
> > >
> > > If -ila (or -illa, as modern Turks spell it) was
> a
> > > diminutival suffix.
> > > But what if Attila did not have the meaning ata
> > > "father" + -ila? What
> > > if it had to do (e.g. as a hypothesis) with
> Atil,
> > > Itil, Etil "Volga"?
> > > (Or a similar river.) Or a third (unknown)
> meaning.
> > >
> > > NB: various pronuciations/spellings in early
> texts:
> > > Ethele, Etzel
> > > (including the oldest Hungarian medieval
> chronicles
> > > as well as the
> > > German 'Niebelungenlied').
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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