Re: 7-minute ITCH

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 52355
Date: 2008-02-05

On 2008-02-05 13:22, fournet.arnaud wrote:

> There's nothing particularly "dialectal" about *jew(h1)o- .
> ========== Do you have a western language reflex ?

It has reflexes in Hittite, Greek, Indo-Iranian and Balto-Slavic -- a
set of languages which is neither a genetic unit nor an areal grouping.
If the word doesn't occur in Italic, Celtic and Germanic, its local loss
(replacement by new words for 'barley'?) is more likely than a
"dialectal" innovation in the East.
>
> =========== The 'oats' word was something rather complex like
> *h2awig^-i/s-) and any connection with *jewo-, let alone the rest of
> the list, is unlikely. ==============
> Utterly stupid

Calling anything that goes against your pet idea "utterly stupid" is
infantile, especially if your own argument is fatally flawed (see below).

> I am precisely explaining to you that this is an example of inherited
> *z which results in *H2 in western PIE and *y in eastern PIE.

A few branches (Balto-Slavic, Greek, probably Iranian) have BOTH
*h2awig^(s)- and *jeu(h1)o- (cf. Lith. aviz^a` 'oats' : jãvas 'corn,
grain'), so your "split *z" seems to be an illusion.

Piotr