[SPAM]Re: [tied] Re: PS Emphatics

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "squilluncus" <grvs@...> wrote:

>
> The phenomenon of making originally weak verbs strong can also be
> found in the Nordic dialects:
>
> more or less accepted in Swedish:
> rök instead of rykte (made smoke),

In Danish only røg.
BTW a notice that the Danish sense "end (dramatically), blow up etc"
(eg. sikringen røg "the fuse blew") has been picked up in Swedish,
maybe that's the reason 'røk' has become the norm.

> böt - bytte ((ex)changed),

In Danish some sideform byttede, inf. bytte

> lös - lyste (was alight),

Only lyste

> betöd - betydde (signified).
> This latter, betöd, seems (to me) to have become the most used form
> in Danish. Am I correct?

Yes. betydede exists marginally in the sense "hinted, let understand".

> In Norwegian (I think) both are received.
>
> All these examples are made from (and rhyming on) genuinely strong
> verbs like knyta knöt knutit and only the preterite with ö is used.


> There are also other patterns: gita get instead of gita gitte (bring
> oneself to do) from a verb like skita sket (shit shat).

Not likely. Da gide gad, a relative of Eng. get got, therefore
originally strong, supposedly (DEO) a relative of that well-travelled
PIE (or what?) *ghe(n)d- "grasp".


Torsten