Re: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Re: PS Emphatics

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 52115
Date: 2008-01-30

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Perhaps you have but I have not. I still believe the circumstances favor
gold (nuggets) being in very, very early use.

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Professionnal archeologists disagree.
Early cannot be much more than maybe - 5000.
Arnaud
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> Instead, they used *Hawes-, 'dawn(-colored thing)' and *g^hel-dh-,
> 'shiny-nugget'.
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> Dawn is another word :
> H2_w here is Arabic s?ab-aH "morning".
> Arnaud
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Absolutely 100% wrong. Arabic <S> is PIE *t, and from Nostratic *tHu.
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Arabic s? definitely cannot be PIE *t.
And if *th is an aspirated consonant
then I make you aware that glottalized and aspirated
are as far away as can be in phonology.
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There is no reason to hyphenate <SabâH>; it is a triliteral.
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I was making clear that I compare PIE *H2_w with *s?_b
and -H is incremental.
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I know of no PIE cognate.
As for *Hawes-, what do you think its ultimate meaning is if
'dawn-colored'?
Patrick
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That's an interesting question.
Egyptian has a word for month
which is 3_b_d
I consider that this "vulture" 3 is <s?>
even though most people hold it to be R.
then If we *dare* compare :
PIE : H2_w "dawn"
Arabic : s?_b-H "morning"
with
Egyptian : 3_b_d "month"
This Egyptian word is hard to compare with something else.
It's just an attempt.

Maybe something like "rise of the sun or moon"
could be the ultimate meaning.
BUT
we can just be happy with "morning"
and discard Egyptian.
Arnaud
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