Re: IS PIE * DERU EXCLUSIVELY INDO-EUROPEAN ?

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 52011
Date: 2008-01-28

> > arbor = doru
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> Any particular reason for connecting these two, other than the meaning?
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> The same reason as for dakru = akru
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The conditions are noth the same here. *h2ak^ru- and *dak^ru- are
identical except for the onset, while <arbor> and *...oru are not
directly relatable.

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Tsalam? t?ob

I cited Tokharian ore "tree"
ore and doru are directly relatable !?

Arnaud
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> Why should it be H1 ?

Hitt. a:rras, with no <h>.
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Well
this is a *weak* reason
I disagree with this ultra simplified analysis of Anatolian.
Arnaud
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> I disagree with this statement "not supported".
> And it sounds strange : you agreed with D-akru = Hakru

I agreed that the reconstructions were correct so you have ONE example
of a word with or without an initial *d-. I don't agree this is evidence
for a suffix. English has a non-etymological /n-/ in <newt> (~ <eft>)
and <nickname> and LACKS an expected /n/ in <apron> and <adder>, but
this is not sufficient evidence for positing an n-prefix in English and
compare it with something in Georgian or Amharic.

Piotr
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I agree with this.
An alternative explanation to akru = dakru
could also be to posit a new phonetic correspondence.
I won't do that.
The fact is : this case is not at all isolated.

Arnaud
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