Re: *pu:tium prae-pu:tium sala-pu:tium

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 51863
Date: 2008-01-24

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
<fournet.arnaud@...> wrote:
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> From: alexandru_mg3
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> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:18 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] *pu:tium prae-pu:tium
sala-pu:tium
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "fournet.arnaud"
> > 1.a *pu:tium could be a simple -yo- compound formed LONG BEFORE
a
> > construction with prae- has appeared:
> >
> > He have plenty of such example in Latin like:
> > Latin o:stium < Latin o:s 'mouth' < PIE *h3oh1-s-o
> > Latin pretium < PIE *pre-t-yo-
> >
> > Marius
> > ==========
> > (tsalam? t?ob)
> > I don't think these examples are a refutation of Assertion 2.
> >
> > Latin pretius is verb with *e > noun derivative : pre > pre-t-yo
> > I see no reason why o:stium could not be the same *h3eh1-s-t-yo
> (with -e-)
> > (I keep this root H3_H1, although I am sceptical it could exist)
>
> Honestly I don't understand what is the link between 'a
preposition'
> and the /e/ that you try to show me . Please could you be more
> specific?
>
> =========
> Cher Marius,
> It seems your English is even more appalling than mine.
> J'ai écrit : "Latin pretius is verb with e > noun derivative".
> Verb : pre hence noun pret-yo.
> Je ne parle pas de préposition.
> Ta question est débile...
> Arnaud
> ===================
>
> 1. There are no "prepositions" in o:stium and pretium
>
> ==========
> Obviously so.
> Cette assertion est inutile et hors-sujet.
> ===============
>
> 2. pre- in pre-t-yo is not a preposition we have quite the PIE
> root /to sell, to trafficate/ inside => /porno/ (to still remain
in
> the current topic) belongs there too.
> ==============
> Wrong.
> The verb pernu:mi has :
> aorist pera-sai
> perfect peprâ-mai
> Root is p_r_H2 not -H1.
> Erreur grossière.
> Arnaud
> =================
>
> 2. There is no /e/ BUT /o/ in Latin o:s ;mouth' < *h3oh1-s- and I
> confirm you that the root for the 'mouth' is *h3oh1- with /o/ not
> with /e/ : please see the related cognates of the 'mouth' word
> especially the Skt. and the Hitt. forms)
> Marius
> =========
> What are these forms ?
> Arnaud
> =============



Arnaud, honêtement, je ne comprends pas de quoi on parle nous deux
ici?

Quel est le sujet?

J'ai seulement dit, que *pu:tium s'était formé bien avant prae-
pu:tium

C'est tout.

Marius