Re: ficken

On 2008-01-21 17:14, Patrick Ryan wrote:

> It might be of some interest to mention here the interesting connections
> between penes and tails that may possibly exist. Most will be familiar
> with the dual meaning of German 'Schwanz'.
>
> *peuk-, 'tail', of course, can be distinguished from *peug^-/k^-,
> 'stick', from which English 'fuck' is almost certainly derived.
>
> But, 'fox' (from *peuk-) is used in English for a particularly sexually
> attractive female, which seems inexplicable from normal ideational
> associations with foxes. Foxes are associated only with devilish
> slyness, AFAIK; and redness.

The fox was also (probably) somehow associated with fertility in some
parts of Europe, cf. the use of fox furs in Dionysian rites. Some
folk-etymological connections between the PGmc. 'fox/vixen' words like
*fux-o:(-n-) or *fux-s-a/u- and sexual terminology would not be
surprising. There are, however, reasons to believe that the meaning
'fuck' is a (dialectal?) Germanic innovation and that the original
meaning of the verb was approximately 'shove, push, punch', so,
etymologically speaking, a fox is more likely "a bushy tail" than "a
cunning little f**er". Skt. púccHa- 'tail, rear part' (no sexual
connotations, possibly < *puk-s-k^o-) suggests that the 'tail' etymon is
old enough to count as PIE.

Piotr