Re: Old Dutch words

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From: Piotr Gasiorowski

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:55 PM

Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Re: Old Dutch words

Also remember it's a list devoted to IE studies, and while we tolerate
occasional excursions off the central topic, don't expect our resident
linguists to be experts on Altaic.

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Thank for allowing a half excursion off main topics,

but I think baqa is interesting as a word for Pelican because

there may ultimately be a link between b_q in baqa and p_(l)_k :

Labial + velar stops ! May be a root !?

Arnaud

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> As far as Krop-gans and Baqa is concerned
> Baqa is supposed to translate Krop-gans,
> in the narration of a Dutch man dating back 1666.

So the important points are these:

(1) What kind of story is it? (e.g., a traveller's tale?)
(2) In what circumstances did the Dutch narrator encouter the word?
(3) Does he provide any information (ethnic, cultural, geographical,
etc.) suggesting at least roughly what language <Krop-gans> was
translated from? I assume there are other such translations in the text.
Are they from the same language?
Piotr

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baqa translates Kropgans and belongs to a list of words translating Dutch words.

I suspect this word is probably some kind of Turcic : maybe Tatar

It's a word from a language one may encounter in Eastern Europe (between Urals and Moscow).

It is hard to say more.

Arnaud
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