Re: IE & Uralic

From: george knysh
Message: 51170
Date: 2008-01-10

--- Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:

> My understanding is that Baltic languages were once
> spoken in what's now Moscow.

****GK: There was back and forth movement here. An
early IE spread (Fatyanovo et al.) was pushed back by
Uralics, then there was another Baltic push eastward
in the early AD.****

If so, Baltic would
> have
> formed a buffer between the Slavs and Uralic
> speakers,

****GK: And a very large one.****

> So there probably was a Uralic substrate in the
> Baltic
> substrate of Eastern Slavic.

****GK: Perhaps more than one.****

> So the old consensus of the Slavs coming out of the
> Pripyat is no longer common?

****GK: The most interesting recent theory is that of
Shchukin. He thinks the Slavs self-constituted ca.
50-250 AD in the East Baltic areas north of the
Prypjat' and Desna. One of the thoughts I had in this
connection is that the significant so-called "Gothic"
words present in Old Common Slavic might have actually
been the contribution of the Bastarnae (this is yet
unverified). Shchukin accepts the view that Bastarnae
were an important component of Slavic
ethnogenesis.****



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