Re: Substrate hand

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

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> A paragraph from Schrijver's 'Lost Languages in Northern Europe':
> A second example of direct contact between the language of geminates
> and a branch of Uralic is the Germanic word hand (Gothic handus etc.)
> < Proto-Germanic *hand-. All attempts at an Indo-European etymology

of > this word remain unconvincing (see recently Kluge & Seebold 1989:

> 353).

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Arnaud
Unconvincing : not a surprise !
It is an Uralic loanword from kom-t : hand
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DAta :

> proto-Finno-Ugric *käti
> Ume Saami giahta
> Finnish käsi (oblique stem käte-)
> Erzya Mordva kedJ
> Hill Mari kit (oblique stem kids-)
> Udmurt ki
> Sosva Mansi kaat
> Hungarian keez (oblique stem käzä-),

> Torsten

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Arnaud
To be added :
Mordv kumor : palm of hand
Mordv kemen : ten
Veps kämen : palm of hand (And Finnish)
the -t in *kom-t can be a derivative or (maybe) the plural -t.

Nganasan : xaen : hand Flache
Ngnasan : komi : hand-voll
Ngnasan : xeade : Finger
There is a nganasan deutsch on line dictionary
From Michael Katzschmann. You can check.

Arnaud

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