Re: Anser (was: swallow vs. nighingale)

From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 50646
Date: 2007-12-01

 
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A.F
Dear Pinocchio,
I disagree with that kind of unprovable unfalsifiable flapdoodle.
Please avoid using "we" when you speak about your own little person.
There are super-cognate roots present in Khoisan with the structure CvC,
and CvC-vC.
Please look at Khoisan a little bit closer,
before I humiliate you once again with rock-solid data.
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Dear Lampwick:
 
Propose a few KhoiSan cognates then so we can have a good laugh.
 
Patrick Ryan
 
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With PAA (especially Semitic) and PIE, which were in contact, we might be able to find a few *CVCC correspondences but supposing that "Hafil" corresponds to PIE *pleH- is amateurish. The PAA biliteral roots that developed into triliteral roots did not do so by prefixing H but rather by suffixation and gemination. If you do not (apparently) know this, you should read up on the subject before recklessly tossing out obvious nonsensicalities.
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A.F
Dear Pinocchio,
If you had any idea what PAA and Semitic were about,
I think you would avoid making a fool of yourself,
uttering that kind of over-assertive and absurd comments.
Arabic has a large array of prefixes, infixes and suffixes.
Get yourself Kazimirski or Lisan and you will know.
Keep on reading and try to understand something
before you proclaim yourself an expert.
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Dear Lampwick:
 
What a shame you cannot distinguish between grammar and Semitic root formation!
 
 
Patrick Ryan
 
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As it happens, there is an Arabic word which in one of its stem forms _may_ possibly be compared with PIE *pleH-, namely ?aflaHa, 'prosperous' /fala:H-un, 'prosperity' , by way of 'provided with abundance/fullness' . The root here, for your instruction, is f-l-H.
 
There is no "H1" in Egyptian, hieroglyphic or otherwise. In any case, if there were really an Egyptian cognate of *pel(H)-, it would appear in Egyptian as *fn(j). There is, in fact, a cognate with the root of PIE *pne-u-: fn, 'pant, be weak'; and fnD, 'nose'.
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A.F
Dear Pinocchio,
PIE *pneu is an infixed variant of *p_H1 root,
as evidenced by Hebrew and Arabic n_p_H / n_f_H
which have infix n- treated as a prefix, instead of an infix.
this makes shreds with your comparison between *pnew and Egyptian fn.
The root in *pnew is *p_H1.
Note that Basque is buh-atu from the same root p_H1 with no affix at all.
This root *p_H also exists in Uralic and Amerind Salish, etc.
I am afraid you overlooked something...
I dare say this is becoming habitual.
Please do something about this predicament of yours.
 
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Dear Lampwick:
 
Infix treated as a prefix?
 
Honi soit qui bon y pense.
 
 
Patrick Ryan
 
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