Re: Fw: [tied] Re: "As"

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 50394
Date: 2007-10-21

And of course, the Chinese called Persia Anxi (vel
sim)
and then there was Anshan, a precursor state of
ancient Persian --although I don't remember if it was
originally an Elamite state or not


--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
>
> > A.F wrote :
> >
> > Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuezhi
>
> Note the mention of 'Assiani'
> >
> > Starting with present-day Chinese names :
> > Yue Zhi
> > Yue Shi
> > Yu Zhi
> > and Niu Zhi
> >
> > If we retro-evolve these names to AD 00,
> > Yue < *ng-ïwat- (velar nasal)
> > Zhi < *tsix
> > Shi < *six
> > Niu < *ngjaw
> >
> > Niu and Yue used to be once closer than now.
> >
> > YueZhi autoethnonym was sounding close to
> *ngjawtsix or *ngiwatsix.
> >
> > I am not sure that these people can be
> "Tokharians" !?
> > This name doesn't look like a Indo-European word.
> >
> > Chinese reconstruction is debatable,
> > but the surest (non debatable) thing is : this
> ethnonym starts with
> > #ng- velar nasal : something especially alien to
> PIE, (and by the
> > way, alien to its closest relatives).
> >
> > In fact, I am quite sure that these YueZhi people
> cannot be
> > whatever kind of Indo-Europeans at all.
>
>
> I'm really beginning to like this *ans- word:
>
> *ansi- > *a~si- > *n,si , vel sim.
> A:s people again.
>
> BTW, is this relevant:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashina ?
>
>
> Torsten
>
>
>
>
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